AI Decodes the System

AI News of the Week - August 4, 2023

August 04, 2023 Marcy Neulle Season 2 Episode 34
AI Decodes the System
AI News of the Week - August 4, 2023
Show Notes Transcript

Welcome to AI Decodes the System, the podcast where we delve into the intricate worlds of data, policy, technology (artificial intelligence), and law for everyone to comprehend. I am your host, Amber Ivey, affectionately known as AI. In today's episode, we are thrilled to have a discussion with Marcy Nuelle, a brilliant researcher and renowned YouTuber, leading major faceless YouTube channels and emerging as your definitive source for AI insights. We're positioning ourselves as the go-to authorities in AI. Call us the 'go-to girls of AI.' Yeah, we like that!

Marcy provides valuable insights into using AI in creative content, including avatars and thumbnails for YouTube channels. We also explore recent updates in popular design tools like Photoshop Beta and Leonardo AI.

The conversation shifts to the future of AI, particularly the race towards Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and the implications of OpenAI trademarking GPT-5. We speculate on the potential consequences of these developments and reflect on the ongoing efforts by leading companies in the field.

Don't forget to follow Marcy Neulle and AI Decodes the System on YouTube, and stay tuned for more enlightening discussions on the intersection of AI, data, technology, policy, and law.

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00:00.00
aidecodes
I am so excited y'all we are here with Marcy Newel amazing Youtuber who talks about Ai and all that amazing stuff. So I'm so glad to have her here and I'm also here ai amber ivy with ai deco the system we're doing Ai news of the week and we are your go to girls to talk about ai. So. Tech bro stay here. Don't leave. You'll be fine I promise so make sure you grab your seat and get ready for these hot tips of the week so Marcy what is going on with Ai this week.

00:29.62
Marcy Nuelle
All right? So first we're gonna start with all the graphic design stuff because there's like a bunch of news we have at least like 10 different updates so it's like a huge week for the design world. So of course we're gonna start with stable diffusion. They launch s yeah, it's crazy so they launch. Um.

00:41.82
aidecodes
Ah, yeah.

00:46.61
Marcy Nuelle
Sd xl right? and 1 of the most important parts of that is that they have the improved clip model now if you don't know clip. It's basically think about consistent characters if you are ever trying to for example, write your books or you're trying to create artwork with the same characters.

00:53.70
aidecodes
Okay, okay.

01:04.79
Marcy Nuelle
They're using Clip many people don't even know what they're looking for and that actually stands for contrastive language image pretraining all right. It's a long word but just think of the word. Yeah clip. So um, and actually here's a tip.

01:06.82
aidecodes
Um, I okay.

01:15.76
aidecodes
That's the hell of acronym.

01:22.46
Marcy Nuelle
Because there are so many Ai tools and I know a lot of people have a hard time trying to create the consistent characters if that software is not even using clip or they're not using for example, image diversification. You're not gonna get anything out of it. It's not gonna work so that's just a little side tip for people to know.

01:26.45
aidecodes
E.

01:35.70
aidecodes
Ah.

01:41.30
Marcy Nuelle
Why their products are not actually coming out the way that they want. Um so it's very important.

01:43.36
aidecodes
so how would I use okay so how would I use stable diffusion clip like explain like a real world example how that could be used in Youtube channels or whatever like how would you actually use it.

01:54.60
Marcy Nuelle
Um, yeah, so let's say you're trying to create like an ai avatar right? and you're trying to yeah so let's say you're creating your Youtube thumbnails and you want to maybe make one of yourself or something like that.

01:59.29
aidecodes
I Need one.

02:06.14
aidecodes
Okay.

02:11.62
Marcy Nuelle
The fact that it's going to allow you to now create a similar image that's going to create more of like a consistent you know person or character cartoon. Whatever it is that you're creating so that it's actually.

02:17.38
aidecodes
Ah.

02:22.60
aidecodes
So.

02:25.86
Marcy Nuelle
The way that you want It's gonna be consistent's gonna look the same and maybe then you can have different clothes or different effects you know, but it's gonna be like the same character. Yeah, so it's like a huge yeah so it's like a huge.

02:30.18
aidecodes
Oh the hot versus like currently yeah because currently it mixes stuff up a little bit unless you're training it right? Yeah, that's wow. Okay, okay, close.

02:43.28
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, it's it's a huge improvement that they did this week um so next up I love ah Leonardo Ai so it's like another image to tax software. Um, and now they just released 2 new models. It's the rpg. Version 5 and then the anime pastel dream. So it's just it's for like um, it's helpful for like gaming or if you have that kind of style of graphic design that you want on so those are 2 really cool new models and you know more realism and it's also kind of like a cute aesthetic too. Um.

03:02.31
aidecodes
Okay.

03:08.14
aidecodes
A.

03:17.19
aidecodes
Okay, okay.

03:19.36
Marcy Nuelle
The like the pass so dream. So backgrounds things like that just like a really um, fun. Update Um, and then go ahead. Okay, so of course photoshop Ah Beta Um, if you haven't downloaded that it's a must. Um, they just.

03:24.19
aidecodes
Nice I Love it what else? What else we got.

03:38.68
Marcy Nuelle
Recently added the um generative generative too many words generative Ai expand with the crop tool right? So um, now you don't even have to worry about any more prompts and so I always tell people ah prompts are gonna be obsolete like keep thinking that.

03:42.76
aidecodes
Oh yeah, my god.

03:56.82
aidecodes
Aren't well. It's basically trying to do it itself. Okay, oh darn.

03:57.81
Marcy Nuelle
You're gonna make $900000 but yeah now you just drag it and it creates images. It automatically expands it to something new from the image that you add to it so like let's say you create a cool image in midjoney right? and it has like really high details.

04:08.12
aidecodes
Oh Wow Oh my gosh. Okay yep, oh Wow. Okay.

04:17.20
Marcy Nuelle
Then you can put it into photoshop you can expand it automatically you have a new image and it is really good for Youtube thumbnails you know to make sure like if you want extra detail you want just a little bit extra space or to flip it you just drag it instantly. You have um, a new image.

04:32.72
aidecodes
So I have not I haven't played in photoshop in a while and you make me want to get back into Beta because it's wild that it doesn't even need prompts right now like my mind is a little bit blown because I'm like I'm a good prompter. My prompts are on point but then like.

04:34.51
Marcy Nuelle
So It's really great. Yeah.

04:50.29
aidecodes
It's like wait. The Ai is already doing it in itself and it knows to either build out a picture or complete the picture in a way through its own um learning so that's amazing. That's that's pretty cool I may have to download that one I'm getting clips and I'm getting photoshop beta what else we got.

04:57.75
Marcy Nuelle
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right? So of course this one is really interesting because um, we all know agi.

05:12.61
aidecodes
Oh yeah, my middle initial should have been g my parents messed up with that I'm a am I but I could have been a G but go ahead now. Been dope I'm change my middle name.

05:14.45
Marcy Nuelle
Right? Um, now. Yeah, that would that would have been dope. You can pretend you can pretend. Um. But they may have you beat though because they're they're all trade. They're allll getting trademarks. So the issue is that on July eighteenth chat gpt was excuse me open a I trademark gp t 5 now? Yeah, um.

05:31.79
aidecodes
For.

05:38.56
aidecodes
Um, ah okay I'm sorry no one else did that before them I would have been out here with Gpc 5 six seven Eight nine Ten I wouldve got all of them if I was another company.

05:47.20
Marcy Nuelle
But the issue is yeah so the issue is how close are we to agi and now are we going to start seeing the next level of competition because recently you know with X A I.

05:57.13
aidecodes
Yeah, yeah.

06:03.72
aidecodes
Right up.

06:06.42
Marcy Nuelle
Elon's already talking about. Okay, we're going to create the agi and I did that last week when he said it's it's about curiosity. It's about truth seeking and in that video I was like well that is subjective because the truth that you find is not always the truth that you expect.

06:11.13
aidecodes
Right.

06:22.45
aidecodes
Right.

06:24.38
Marcy Nuelle
Right? So that was okay, not even gonna go into that one yet. Um, but then I was looking back through a lot of different posts and there's this guy. He's like an investor and his name is siki chen and back then in let's see March Twenty seventh

06:26.97
aidecodes
Yeah.

06:44.60
Marcy Nuelle
He said he was um, giving the info that yeah Gp G P T five would would achieve agi. It's too many acronyms man but um, so now it's like are we going to start seeing the competition for agi.

06:44.75
aidecodes
Ah.

06:50.98
aidecodes
Yeah, it's a lot of acronyms.

06:58.53
aidecodes
It could be interesting.

07:02.98
Marcy Nuelle
And how far are we actually advancing on the back end that we don't even know about yet. So.

07:03.81
aidecodes
Who right? because they were all talking about like oh we're we're pausing GPT five we're gonna hold off. We're only going to gpc four hey congress.

07:13.50
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, yeah. And.

07:19.33
aidecodes
We're chilling. We don't need to go further. But now folks are trademarking and I'm sure they're constantly building those tools in the background. So yeah, it's gonna be very interesting and to see who does it first because they there's no way they're not building these models and trying to get them there. There's no way, especially with X a I ah chat Gp t.

07:25.21
Marcy Nuelle
Yes.

07:33.34
Marcy Nuelle
Exactly.

07:38.43
aidecodes
5 and what that looks like there's no way folks aren't trying to build that.

07:40.52
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, I'm just wondering. It's like how because man if people don't understand Agi it's to have the ability to not only try to create emotions human emotions How we would think or how we would create or.

07:57.53
aidecodes
Moot.

08:00.23
Marcy Nuelle
Even behave that is a huge deal and then where are they getting that information from because I mean if Elon has Twitter.

08:02.30
aidecodes
Um, yeah, yeah, like where is the data from is my concern because the current data. Yeah, but everyone doesn't though like if you look at the demographics. If you look at like even the data that they're currently trained off of what it assumes it assumes that you have ah access to share information that you put information out there that it actually trained on your data. We know that normally isn't within small groups of not small groups with certain groups and certain demographics. So That's the interesting part of like.

08:20.64
Marcy Nuelle
8

08:36.95
aidecodes
What it will be based on the data it trains on and how it continues to learn itself. That's the thing I'm very fascinated about.

08:43.65
Marcy Nuelle
Um, like do we really want an agi ah that mimics people on Twitter hey.

08:45.28
aidecodes
I don't I don't want to a I the miic twitter Facebook none of the the grahams none of the I don't want any of it because these are not places where I I personally barely hang out. So I don't want an a guy like oh this is how it is to be a human which is basically an asshole.

08:55.30
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah.

09:02.73
aidecodes
And a jerk. So I'm like no I'm good on that.

09:03.69
Marcy Nuelle
Pretty much so that's gonna be really interesting because I think that's one of the biggest worry that everybody has is like data scraping because Elon like things like within the last month or so he started limiting data scraping right. So I think that's actually relevant because if he's maybe trying to acquire that data and he doesn't want anybody else to also get that data. You know that's kind of like it's like okay so you know we thought maybe it was oh for protection. But then it's like well.

09:20.35
aidecodes
Here. Ah oh.

09:26.13
aidecodes
Um, Twitter is an audit though. Twitter is not it. Um.

09:38.22
Marcy Nuelle
To prevent other individuals from actually acquiring that data as well. So that's a an interesting interesting thing to consider about what's gonna happen. So.

09:47.00
aidecodes
But what I so will say about elon on let me see if he's calling me. No I'm not that I'm not that to that level? Yeah, but what I will say about him is like think about the Tesla and the um like the ai that that the self-driving part of the Tesla like I do admire how they did that.

09:59.87
Marcy Nuelle
Oh.

10:04.49
aidecodes
And how like they trained it and it got to the point where literally they're like removing pieces of it because it's smart enough to do it itself so I do love what they did with the um self-driving cars and how that's working because that's been pretty successful. So I'm hopeful that he doesn't use Twitter data.

10:08.16
Marcy Nuelle
I.

10:20.61
aidecodes
Um, that there's plenty other data sets to think about and um I am nervous even with chat gp 3 and his limitations of how you correct some of the things that we all know are problems with that model or even like the bars of the world. There's still issues with them like there's no perfect model yet and of course, let's not stop. The.

10:25.55
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, yeah.

10:38.39
aidecodes
Enemy of the good is is trying to get the perfect right? So we don't want to do that So we want to learn about these things but I am concerned is in a few hands and I want to make sure that we as a folks who are going to be also interacting with these models know what we're getting and hopefully challenge them to be more responsible when it comes to these texts.

10:54.94
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, all right? So next we have um Runway Ml and it's just like a quick update because now they just launch their footage packs. So I think this is actually really interesting as well because.

11:02.73
aidecodes
Um, oh nice. Okay.

11:10.51
Marcy Nuelle
I Mean you can with Gen two create your own videos right with Gen Two Yeah and it's also available on the web and ios. So it's yeah so it's like really helpful. Um.

11:13.40
aidecodes
Got it? yep. Oh nice that works out. Okay, that's big because think about how long it took for chat gbt to get on Ios and everybody had those fake chat gbt websites I actually met a woman I was talking to her.

11:27.43
Marcy Nuelle
So I mean if you're.

11:35.20
aidecodes
Was like I have chat gbt on my phone at the time they hadn't released the ios and I was like manam that's not that's not it and she didn't know using a third party and I was like no, it's only at the time was only on desktop and she was like I'm paying these people like she's being like a $40 subscription or something crazy.

11:41.70
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah.

11:50.25
aidecodes
So it's also important as folks are listening to this when you're getting these new tools please make sure you're getting the right tools and it's not someone who's using Apis or trying to make money off of this shout out to the people making money I'm not a hater but for those of you who are users of it. Make sure you know what you're using, but go ahead.

11:54.22
Marcy Nuelle
A. Yeah, yeah, no, That's a really good tip to especially when you're on mobile or like they try to like mimic like with the icons and the names. Yeah, you do got to be careful with that, especially with your information So That's a big deal.

12:07.70
aidecodes
Yeah, oh yeah.

12:18.10
Marcy Nuelle
but um but yeah the video is the be role that they created it looks really good. It's really, um, affordable because I think it's like five cents per forgotten per second or per minute don't don't quote me, it's cheap to make it. But.

12:20.79
aidecodes
Okay, nice.

12:34.26
aidecodes
Either 1 is not bad. It's still cheap. Yeah, um, okay, great.

12:37.15
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, but if you're not like a creative person. The fact that they already have those packs ready for you. That's like really helpful, especially like for videos because now like with Youtube automation and there are so many people who want to make like faceless channels. You can go and get your b roll. So it's not like you have to be creative now you can just go and.

12:49.96
aidecodes
Oh yeah.

12:56.96
Marcy Nuelle
Download you know videos that are a bit more unique than you know, regular websites that have um, you know videos that everybody else is using so that's like an option if you're making Youtube automation videos. Go check out the new ah check out those new videos.

13:08.50
aidecodes
That's a good idea. That's what I'm doing after this.

13:15.20
Marcy Nuelle
All right? So then now we're getting into a bit of a few heavier topics. Um, so yeah, not that deep not this week um

13:20.14
aidecodes
Oh lower it. Let's go Okay, all I got to get my soul together. We gonna go a I deep I'm like can we do ai surface for week. What and then we two, we go a little bit deeper but right now please.

13:31.35
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, just a tiny bit. Yeah I mean it was like there were a lot of updates but there weren't you know so I mean they're important but you know goes up and down every week but it's still interesting stuff.

13:36.41
aidecodes
Sprinkle it in there take with take with flow take me slow. No yeah, Okay, okay.

13:50.70
Marcy Nuelle
Um, but as far as the the bigger news now it's the ah the ai chips for the chinese market and I think this is where we're gonna start getting into yeah the lost policies and regulations. Um, because now Amd right? so.

13:57.50
aidecodes
I I just stole that stock I need to get it. But.

14:07.78
Marcy Nuelle
Let me backtrack so Nvidia. Yeah, so um Nvidia and Intel they already make Ai chips for China right? But there are some laws and regulations that they have to abide by but now Amd is.

14:20.71
aidecodes
Yep.

14:25.42
Marcy Nuelle
Trying to compete with their chips. It's the am I 300 Ai chips um and basically these are like um semiconductors um to analyze data specifically for Ai right? So it's it's really I'm not gonna I'm not even gonna go that deep I could.

14:29.27
aidecodes
Okay, okay.

14:34.91
aidecodes
Then.

14:44.11
aidecodes
Okay I was about to say keep it keep it keep it at surface. We'll do that later. Okay, you got to keep watching to get level ah level 10 level hundred.

14:45.17
Marcy Nuelle
But yeah I'm I'm going to keep it right here level 0 right now. But yeah, so.

14:57.56
Marcy Nuelle
Um, but yeah, so that is a big deal and's but I find it interesting I was like well all of these us companies are now focusing on exporting these Ai chips. So I think that may be a topic that we really need to look more into.

15:02.80
aidecodes
On here.

15:11.10
aidecodes
Um, oh yeah, stocks were going crazy on that stuff. Yep stocks were going crazy on this on the chips. All the chip companies they were doing really well in the market.

15:14.18
Marcy Nuelle
And then how the laws are going to catch up to this type of information. Yep, say it again.

15:24.97
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, so um, yeah, so that's one of the big issues as far as exporting and how these Ai products because you know we're always thinking about Ai you think just um, products online right? look.

15:35.35
aidecodes
Right? And not ah what bills it? What actually drives it like that's where a lot of things are also happening and have to happen because even when Nvidia also say real quick even with Nvidia like there's a lot of companies like I think Apple has like 1 of their lines.

15:40.42
Marcy Nuelle
Exactly exactly. So I think a lot of yeah, go ahead.

15:55.23
aidecodes
Held up for a very long time just to run some of their chips in general like so these companies that are chipmakers like people are literally paying prime dollar to get their products made through these companies and to be the best at it like I said nvid and Apple have a really big deal literally where Apple pays a premium.

15:57.45
Marcy Nuelle
We.

16:06.95
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, and India.

16:13.45
aidecodes
To get a certain amount of um time on their lines to get their chips so that stuff is That's a very important thing to think about and who's going to be the newest and who have the best of things that are coming out.

16:18.18
Marcy Nuelle
Um, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, it's and not even with the chips like with the servers and it's like okay well if.

16:28.80
aidecodes
Yeah, yeah.

16:34.80
Marcy Nuelle
What point are we going to find the balance between um, if we're creating large data models Eventually, we're going to need more powerful servers more um and that's actually for the corporate level. But it I Also wonder how is that gonna limit.

16:45.16
aidecodes
Yep.

16:53.30
Marcy Nuelle
General population who doesn't have access to buy desktops when they don't have access to buy. Um, it's kind of we're going backwards right? back to like when the computers were like huge and taking up a a whole room. Yeah.

16:53.40
aidecodes
Then.

17:05.11
aidecodes
Yeah, and airby is paying like a million dollars at Gateway and Airbys pay like building their gateway computers back in the day when it was a thing and you paying like two thousand three thousand dollars but something else came out this week I got search it while we're talking there was cause me and my ah me and lu all were talking about it and it was.

17:10.96
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

17:23.70
aidecodes
At first it was leaked like a paper was leaked on a conductor. Yeah, he's a tech guy. Um, but there was a a research paper that was leaked about a conductor that could um work at room temperature like a superconductor that can work at room temperature so it was leaked at first everyone saying wasn't real then another guy recreated it.

17:24.82
Marcy Nuelle
Lowell is a tech guy lowell is a tech guy.

17:31.88
Marcy Nuelle
Next.

17:41.80
aidecodes
There may be an opportunity for this whatever. However, they were able to do it where they have a conductor that can move high power. Um, because right now I think conductors he said have to be like negative two hundred and fifty degrees to to move this type of power so we could literally probably put crazy power in something the size of a cell phone so there are the.

17:57.29
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, yeah.

18:00.21
aidecodes
But are other things happening at other phils right now like we're in a real cool time to live I'm not trying to be like funny I know some folks say that about other ages but even in the last forty years so many things have happened and so many new innovations new breakthroughs on old theories that existed for so long are now getting to the place where they're like.

18:07.22
Marcy Nuelle
A a.

18:18.99
aidecodes
We can use this stuff so it's about to get really wild, especially if we're able to like boo power and something like take high power in small devices like a cell phone in a way. We've never been able to do that and have um and have energy transfer in that way. So I'm interested to see what happens with the ad.

18:20.35
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah.

18:30.59
Marcy Nuelle
Um, yeah.

18:35.70
aidecodes
I was listening to a Youtube about it with him but I'm interested to see if they really got it done or not but there's rumors that through the research paper and someone else proven it as well. That is possible so we'll see.

18:47.15
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, but that's a good point though because a few days ago I talked about the um, how the new opportunities for Ai is the server-side hosting as far as trying to get people to use it on their mobile devices like for example with runway.

18:57.68
aidecodes
Yep yep.

19:05.80
Marcy Nuelle
And um, all of you know chat Gp the issue is is that you can only do what so much on your phone. So I wonder what is going to be not only the educational divide but the professional divide of the people who can only do things on their phone.

19:06.72
aidecodes
A.

19:13.62
aidecodes
Yep.

19:16.92
aidecodes
Oh yeah, right? Oh yeah, they went.

19:25.30
Marcy Nuelle
Versus the professionals who have desktops versus corporate who have the rooms filled with giant servers. So even though even though things are going to the phone which I think is great but people still have to be aware of that and the limitations because if somebody only thinks Oh yeah I have the software on my phone.

19:33.83
aidecodes
Yeah.

19:43.13
Marcy Nuelle
Because they're not tech savving. They think they have the full version and they don't even realize why is that person able to do better with the same software and it's like it's not the same right? So people do have to be aware of it.

19:43.80
aidecodes
Um, right and they are limited.

19:52.60
aidecodes
Um, and I think yeah I think I'm glad that you said that because honestly like I don't think people think about that and that's not something they're gonna tell you they're not like hey you downloaded this app or hey you're trying to reach a browser. They're like they're not like.

20:04.21
Marcy Nuelle
Um, yeah.

20:10.27
aidecodes
Oh you do not have the computing power to power for this so you have a limited virgin. No one knows that So I'm glad you're saying that saying that out loud so people can know like hey if you can afford a desktop if you can afford. Um the right type of not gaming chip ah video card or Cetera Cetera and make sure your computer can run.

20:11.33
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, pretty much and me.

20:29.25
aidecodes
Like I think we've forgotten because how powerful computers are how much it takes to run a computer um like luwell was um, he had bought a computer but he was still building. He was like changing some of the partsse in it and like changing the video car changing the Ram like he was literally taking the computer apart he bought one but he added to it because he didn't want to build it on his own.

20:34.29
Marcy Nuelle
Um.

20:39.61
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, yeah.

20:48.81
aidecodes
But even still it's like he had to do all that to optimize that computer every day people Ai n't thinking about optimizing a computer folks are on a laptop and then they run out of space and then they're like what no I'm like there are computers that have so much power that can do much a lot of things and those processors matter like we have to think about that and I think because.

20:51.55
Marcy Nuelle
Is.

21:01.67
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, yeah.

21:08.24
Marcy Nuelle
E.

21:08.43
aidecodes
Computers have way more room. We forgot about that cause I remember when we were younger and you had a computer. It will let me tell you you got to? you can't do this right now. It's like we don't know what it can or can't do and we're not. We don't hit those limits like we used to to even start to.

21:14.78
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, pretty much. Yeah.

21:22.92
aidecodes
Work Our brain and know that that is a problem and that's something that still happens with within computers.

21:28.33
Marcy Nuelle
Or even like if you go 1 step further like there was that there's a person that left me a comment and the person said. Um, yeah I'm gonna tag him so he sees this.

21:35.93
aidecodes
Um, a person shot you out without shouting you out at so is up. Um.

21:44.84
Marcy Nuelle
Um, so he kept saying oh but the the Ai tools now that are available. You can just get them on the api. They're hosted on the cloud. They're small software. You don't need and I'm like you understand that that for example I use a term of Adobe.

21:56.20
aidecodes
Then? okay.

22:03.34
aidecodes
There.

22:04.78
Marcy Nuelle
Right? You understand that in order for me to access the the Cloud hosted ai tool that yes it's small I still have to open up photoshop now my computer it still has to have enough gpu in order to run it. So.

22:15.24
aidecodes
Yeah, you there? yeah.

22:24.14
Marcy Nuelle
It's like you can't always do one without the other because I think sometimes people forget they're so used to like scan-alone products that they're not thinking about exactly but they're not thinking like oh some tools are used within another tool and then that tool's not going to work without a desktop computer.

22:25.52
aidecodes
Yeah, yeah, and the quick. Whatever just happens.

22:39.90
aidecodes
Um, all right? Oh yeah, that's real. Oh yeah.

22:43.29
Marcy Nuelle
You know, especially if you're trying to be more of a professional um and just so people know y'all need to be professional entrepreneurs soon if because if these jobs get out of hand and there are no jobs I'm gonna need for you guys to start your own Youtube channel to make some money.

22:50.46
aidecodes
Because that's not to be only that.

22:59.81
aidecodes
Iss go be content content creators all over the world like idiocracy all over it. Everybody is creating stuff so we often talk each other it. Yeah niches gets niches hit Rick yeah leave this ni tomorrow niches get rich.

23:02.74
Marcy Nuelle
Pretty much I'll find find a different nich though is I don't don't come in this niche. Yeah, go find something else to do do some crafts or something all right I've messing with people.

23:15.26
aidecodes
Leave this niche alone I'm go get a fairness as that leave my Nichela sorry for Butildo No but seriously to take a serious moment on that. But seriously though we argue into a place. Um, where you got to figure out other lenses because technology's moving pretty quickly.

23:21.88
Marcy Nuelle
Um, all right? So another one.

23:31.80
Marcy Nuelle
Mean him.

23:34.37
aidecodes
There will be new industries that are open up like marcce is saying Marcy is saying around the piece that she was just talking about but we have to make sure that you are prepared always tell folks like find your intersection and your intersection should include some tech component whether you're a teacher whether you're a librarian whatever it is that you're doing you need to figure out how tech works in that. Space to at least stay relevant in the next ten years to be honest because it's gonna be a very interesting 10 like think about it. Iphone came out what 2008 that was that's nothing like it sounds like a long time ago because it is almost like 15 years but ah.

23:55.43
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, yeah. E.

24:06.92
aidecodes
That was not that long ago like and what has happened after that the possibilities are only gonna get even crazier with chat gpc. We saw what happened with threads How many users are being are using this stuff. We're moving to users very quickly getting folks online so we need to really think about what that means for jobs and what that means for the future.

24:08.54
Marcy Nuelle
Um, yeah.

24:23.49
aidecodes
Um, so please make sure you find your niche. There's riches and niches go ahead Marcel what's next.

24:29.35
Marcy Nuelle
Um, well now that you said that there was an article written. Um, that said I think they're the Ai jobs specifically for women to excuse me, not the Ai jobs for women that the business industry would affect women.

24:37.84
aidecodes
Oh okay.

24:46.22
Marcy Nuelle
80% that ai would affect 80% look

24:47.12
aidecodes
Not a game it I'm tired of being on these. Ah these sta list. Okay get them get women off the stat list I'm good i't need it but they I read the article as well. Oh yeah, they get help you out.

24:56.63
Marcy Nuelle
But I'm like hey I know most of the guys are in tech but look we need a lot more women in tech.

25:06.97
aidecodes
You know sister help your wife help your mom help your Auntie like you know a woman somewhere in your life. So make sure they know this but go ahead. Marcy.

25:11.83
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, so it's important you know ladies also pay attention. Okay, or tell I could say all the guys Tech Bros Tell your ladies.

25:17.79
aidecodes
I know y'all are 10% of viewership right now the 10% of viewership. Please pay attention because ladies all listen. So I need ladies to offer the list. Yes, we are probably pulling more to tech for guys y'all gonna listen to this more often than a woman is you just are.

25:28.65
Marcy Nuelle
Ah, right? So next up, um.

25:35.14
Marcy Nuelle
You guys know you like being here.

25:36.74
aidecodes
Cause y'all love this stuff. y'all love youtube you live here so it is what it is but tell seriouslyious those are things like we're sharing this stuff because Ai news of the week news should be shared. Don't just keep the news for yourself share the um Youtube tell someone to subscribe to our channel. We're super neutral. We're very logical. We bring facts so make sure um you let women in your life know. You care if you don't care also share it. But what's next on the list subscribe subscribe but sorry I'm um, it's late and I haven't had an budgeting.

25:58.37
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, and so subscribe subscribe to the channel man subscribe to the channels.

26:09.67
Marcy Nuelle
Okay, and 1 of the kind of weird kind of things so I was checking out this ah wall street journal article. Um, it was with a ah would you say.

26:17.29
aidecodes
Did you subscribe did you subscribe did you subscribe to the art Ro Street Channel I paid for some wondering if you subscribed or not.

26:24.16
Marcy Nuelle
I subscribe with free I have to scroll down before he asked me to.

26:30.96
aidecodes
Okay, that's why I was like do you pay for that if not I page I subscribe because I add there's too many things I want to with what read there so they keep getting me but go ahead I'm sorry to interrupt they get me for that for I got a deal I think it's sports 24 look at the.

26:40.72
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah dan' gonna get me unless y'all want to give me a free subscription. Well we can share you can share what your subscription would be um.

26:49.73
aidecodes
Yeah, we get to ask I'll see our cause I'll send you the straight up screenshot.

26:55.61
Marcy Nuelle
So they were doing an interview with a senior white house aide right? trying to find out what is Biden's view on and on Ai and basically let me take a break.

26:59.10
aidecodes
E.

27:06.92
aidecodes
What sorry the way this start it all is going to go bad First of all in your white house at a white hair excuse me white house aide. We don't know what that person's background is are they tack are they anything just some random person we were like hey.

27:12.43
Marcy Nuelle
It's not. It's not.

27:23.88
aidecodes
How' Biden doing that a stuff what continue allll like to listen they need to set those articles up better because trolls are ready all right? And as a former troll I was ready senior white house a asked tells us what Biden thinks about Ai first of all.

27:28.19
Marcy Nuelle
So.

27:36.30
Marcy Nuelle
Okay.

27:41.19
aidecodes
No comment. Let me be quiet I'm not trying to be but I this is the area I need to be good because this is public. Go ahead smile by who how somebody else tells somebody else how Theys feel about something it this a I he's resting it.

27:43.85
Marcy Nuelle
I'm trying to be good I'm not even trying to go super deep on it. But okay.

27:51.54
Marcy Nuelle
It's not even a long statement. Ah but I was like with something so deep this is I mean I guess this person.

28:00.78
aidecodes
Talking my a I the crib we got Wars happening right now you think he's like if they ever ask you about a I all them I said.

28:06.57
Marcy Nuelle
Well he said I think that's the how the meeting goes. Yeah, pretty much so they just thought it's it feels stupid even to repeat it. This is.

28:11.85
aidecodes
Oh go ahead. I'm sure he was ready for that that was on top of his list all right, Go ahead.

28:24.96
Marcy Nuelle
Ah done This quote is.

28:25.66
aidecodes
Know when you started it I was like this is dumb. You said it was dumb so I went hand fell like I could go off your um because you know I'm I'm reckless so I was like this is down like it's got to be dumb as hell but go ahead I'm Melissa I'm not gonna say anything. Um.

28:29.44
Marcy Nuelle
It is I'm I'm trying to be professional about it. It's wonder and worry it's.

28:40.74
aidecodes
Um, next topic please.

28:44.79
Marcy Nuelle
And then the follow up was yeah they plan on acting sooner than later that is the state like that is the state.

28:47.24
aidecodes
They weren't ready for that too.

28:53.91
aidecodes
Too late too late too late. Let me tell you what was too late too late too late too late. The fact that even like and my so my thought life huh. How do you bring it home.

29:02.44
Marcy Nuelle
That we're in ah, bring bring that home a little bit bring it home a little bit take it up a notch a tiny bit.

29:12.58
aidecodes
I'll bring it home. No I'm gonna bring it home now. This I'm bring it home and it's not gonna go home. It's gonna go right back out to space. But no, but 1 of the things that even so um, I'm a voice of an Ai that was that's uses and now it uses for but my I trained my voice on the ai a couple years ago. Um, the ai is called Clara and she's part of. Ah group call create labs and she's a Ai or whatever that goes around and teaching kids about Ai. They've been doing it for a few years they asked me to train my voice on her. So I thought it was really cool and at the time I think when I first trained my voice on her. It was like 4 hours of tape and this was a couple years ago now I think they trained her on like 7 minutes of my podcast.

29:36.40
Marcy Nuelle
A.

29:49.67
aidecodes
Um, which was way quicker. But even back then she was using GPT three because openai was allowing certain people to get access to it and they were using it and like sharing it out there. So for me when it was like when it came public for folks I'm like but this thing has been hanging out.

29:56.52
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah.

30:07.45
aidecodes
Literally doing things and like interacting for some time So I'm not joking when I say too late I Really mean like hey too late and even if any of y'all watched a congressional hearing some of y'all may care about that I do personally so I watched it and I was in shock at the questions that were coming up like questions were not they were like questions you should never ask. So when you say wonder and Wow or whatever The heck you just said and we're gonna do something soon wonder and worry. Okay, wonder and worry and we're gonna do something Soon. My response is too late because even after that I haven't seen any meaningful. Some folks are talking about it and I know in the past some people have tried to do some legislation on it.

30:29.60
Marcy Nuelle
Um, wonder and worry.

30:46.90
aidecodes
Haven't seen anything meaningful coming after that in my mind I would have been like hey we probably need to think about this differently China did something why aren't we so I'm like that's that to me is the wrong statement for today but I'll leave it at that and keep it keep it calm and keep you cool.

30:52.53
Marcy Nuelle
Ah.

30:58.40
Marcy Nuelle
And I will say scientific advisors where are you? Okay, we need.

31:06.74
aidecodes
That's what yes, that's who I thought you were gonna say was saying that that was a punchline for a um that was a punchline and that's cool but I would want a science of your advisor or technology. They have a technology. Um.

31:19.66
Marcy Nuelle
Are.

31:20.50
aidecodes
Ah, whole group that focused on technology Ai they brought on they created new groups that focused on Ai and government in the feds. So there's a lot of people that can that could have been the spokesperson I just think they picked the wrong person and that's fine, nothing against the person I'm all about folks being able to speak up. But I think we should probably have someone else speaking about.

31:24.81
Marcy Nuelle
Mean Yeah, yeah.

31:38.41
aidecodes
It's such a real topic at this point in time. That's just me.

31:39.78
Marcy Nuelle
And it's like how do let me let me put my words kindly and not go over the top.

31:45.42
aidecodes
Okay, I'll keep it rough. You keep it kind. Sorry I can't your pearl bus bro can't have me out here on these Youtube streets.

31:55.39
Marcy Nuelle
Um I did a moment so because it's like once these programs already implemented corporate level if you guys even understand what.

32:05.20
aidecodes
Here.

32:12.63
Marcy Nuelle
Lma too is doing with Meta and Microsoft and azure am I saying that word correctly because I always get it wrong azure whatever every time. Whatever who cares about azure what I care don't get.

32:20.21
aidecodes
Azure. It's okay, it's okay, we're I'm gonna correct you every time.

32:26.58
aidecodes
Ah I care to a yeah, it's okay I'm like we need all our a yeah we do straight up because they're everywhere and they they do create put a good job.

32:30.58
Marcy Nuelle
Oh like let me catch myself I care too. Don't bump my membership but um, oh that we all need it I'm I'm trying to be banned but um, um, but it's like once they're already implemented.

32:46.75
aidecodes
So what if I don't know what you're talking about no that we're wine a bit so I know what you're talking about but can you like explain to audience. What do you mean by what what are they doing with llama to Facebook Meta Microsoft what are they all doing right now like what's happening what was relate to Lama two can you speak like at a.

32:47.76
Marcy Nuelle
In the business world. How are those policies going to catch up.

33:06.10
Marcy Nuelle
Um, well I don't even know if okay even level all right? So basically one of the most important parts of Lama 2 is the research models right.

33:06.50
aidecodes
Even level like what's going on there even level.

33:19.80
aidecodes
Yeah, yeah, we should have actually said that at the beginning of this but got it. Yeah I work on Data performance management and government in particular. So I'm more on the government side of this world.

33:22.47
Marcy Nuelle
Um, with chat Gpt I'm a research scientist. So yeah and amber works in the government. Yeah right? So that's the beautiful thing about almaitude is with. Ability to as they're trying to focus on research on accuracy right? because chat you bt is like um oh you want references I'm about to give you some that I made up. Oh you want authors I just created 22 people. Yeah exactly. So.

33:48.86
aidecodes
Um I got you son I'm a reference AbBCDEGAndison is power real. Yep literally.

33:59.40
Marcy Nuelle
The fact that all of these language models are now moving towards um the University level and corporate level I don't think people realize the importance of that.

34:06.50
aidecodes
Um, well let's break that down. What do you say when you mean universal level meaning universities and corporate companies are gonna be adopting these models right? Yeah, but they're getting primed to adopt these models at that level not just beyond.

34:14.17
Marcy Nuelle
Exactly Well not yet. But now they're working on trying to make it accurate. Exactly.

34:23.74
aidecodes
Users like you and me and those of y'all who are watching make sure you subscribe who are also now using it imagine a corporation that has Microsoft getting access to an Ai beyond copilloot but this other AiLama 2 or imagine government because government one of the biggest um contractors for government is Microsoft right.

34:34.50
Marcy Nuelle
Me.

34:41.29
Marcy Nuelle
Rain? yeah.

34:43.28
aidecodes
Um, and the work that they do your a WS and they're big government contractors or these big companies that are working in these other places now these companies will have access to these models and universities in a different way beyond beyond them just saying hey I'm on cha gpt using this generative Ai.

34:56.54
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, and the connection to azure is that azure has 722000000 members with the businesses people.

35:05.40
aidecodes
Yeah, yeah.

35:10.12
Marcy Nuelle
So you can imagine if they're going to start maybe connecting with all of these Ai softwares. How is the laws. That's not even proper grammar. That's a stunned I am how are the laws policies and regulations going to ah match up to.

35:17.37
aidecodes
We need laws yesterday.

35:27.77
Marcy Nuelle
722000000 people when they're already running their business on it. It's the people are gonna be like ah we've been using this for 2 years heart

35:30.85
aidecodes
All right? Yeah, where that's why I said earlier? Yeah, and that's why I said earlier we're too late. We're just too late. Granted we should still law um, lawmakers used to still act if you happen to be. Point Zero zero zero one percent of person people who listen to this um lawmakers should still act and make sure that we're doing using Ai in a in a helpful way, especially when it's at the corporate level and beyond the individual level or universal level because that's a totally different game but again like you said if all of a sudden 700.

35:48.96
Marcy Nuelle
If.

35:59.63
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, like.

36:05.51
aidecodes
700000000 people are now using this tool you already, you're gone like the moment they use. It is very hard to pull that back. My thing thing about it like how they try to ban tiktokck and it's like okay after everyone had downloaded it. No the best thing would've probably going to do is say hey.

36:08.53
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, exactly and then to kind of.

36:19.52
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, yeah.

36:24.29
aidecodes
Apple us you don't offer Tiktok in the us and granted I don't think you should ban Tiktok but I'm saying if you want to do it. You gotta do it before mass adoption because it's hard to pull that stuff back.

36:25.57
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, yeah.

36:33.31
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, it's a lot. Um, okay, and then to kind of bring it home and connect it to our last topic. So today I saw that Johns Hopkins University um which made me so happy.

36:38.50
aidecodes
And then. Go update you my former employer who shout out jade here as a shout out Jh you.

36:49.43
Marcy Nuelle
Um, so shout out to them. Um, it looks like they just what you say but yes, yes, um, and if y'all want to hire somebody else. You can hire me I am looking for a teaching position.

37:02.44
aidecodes
Shout out looks shout out looking for jobs try to open no shout out open for opportunity.

37:13.80
Marcy Nuelle
Um, so they hired it looks like they hired a hundred and ten professors um because they're focusing on creating the data science and ah translate translation.

37:18.81
aidecodes
That's a lot in.

37:26.17
Marcy Nuelle
Institute I'm not sure about that part but we have to look it up but um, but it's focused on developing Ai so the fact that now we're going to see universities really putting forth the funding and the effort towards advancing education for Ai I think that is.

37:26.99
aidecodes
Okay, okay. No. Oh yeah.

37:45.63
Marcy Nuelle
Massive because a hundred and ten professors that is a lot. Okay, that's a that's huge. Um, yeah.

37:49.64
aidecodes
Um, that's why that's why I was telling you before we started I had interviewed Dr Shaella who is. He's a Ai researcher. He's been researching ai for ridiculous amount of years decades like he always jokes and says everyone's so scared of ai but ai is on social security because it's been around that long like it could get his social security card in the u s I love the way he talks about it but he wrote the book. Um, can we trust Ai but he's a professor at ju but he works in.

38:08.97
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, yeah. Yeah e.

38:18.68
aidecodes
He does Ai research but in the engineering on departments I'm interested to see if he's gonna be involved in this new um, new program or new. Hopefully it's ah, a center or whatever or a department or a school there. It's be interesting to see what happens with that. But that's really exciting cause.

38:19.80
Marcy Nuelle
The.

38:29.50
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah.

38:34.55
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, yeah, yeah, think this is the the whiting school of engineering. Yeah so I think that's gonna be Yeah yeah.

38:36.28
aidecodes
I Think before they were hanging out in the engineering department. Yep's whiting school or engineering That's where they were hanging out and in my book I have the so in my book. The children's book I have I have the whiting school in there as that's the school that she's right in front of yeah.

38:51.74
Marcy Nuelle
Oh do you have your book with you to show everybody.

38:54.37
aidecodes
Ahure news and y'all are here and I it's our pop podcast but I wrote a book called a I meet ai it's for kids. So ages 4 to 8 but I'm gonna pull up the picture of the whining school is basin is based on an Ai that got is Gps mangle coming from jju but. I do show the whiting school of engineering my illustrator did amazing job of that that is to whiting school of engineering. So if you ever go on campus. That's where it is and I'm so excited if that's what a new Ai school is that's where Dr Chappe I think he's also based in that um in that school. But it's literally a few minutes from my house.

39:14.14
Marcy Nuelle
We.

39:26.96
Marcy Nuelle
And let the people know where they can buy that book.

39:28.62
aidecodes
So that's really really cool and oh you can buy it on Amazon we will also drop it in the notes below. So don't you worry and this will also be a podcast so podcast listeners is in a show can show notes. Yay.

39:34.60
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, yeah. Yeah yll y'all go get my girls book man because it's Amazing. It's a great book. Yeah.

39:45.33
aidecodes
But yeah, it's on Amazon or you can go to my website a I digytails dot com that's a I d I g I t a l e s dot com I sound like a radio producer drinks water. Thank you, thank you.

39:57.39
Marcy Nuelle
No, that's dope though all right? So um, that kind of covers all the topics for the week do you have any other topics that you want to talk about.

40:04.64
aidecodes
No I think that I say no and then I think that I think that I'm really excited about this partnership and what this looks like I'm really excited about where we go from here. So if y'all have ideas for the go to girls for Ai. Please make sure you drop it in the comments. Let us know hit us up on our respective on pages follow Marcy Nuel also follow ai deco the system I also podcast and talk about these topics I'm gonna be making sure I do that even more so just make sure you follow us? Um, we love this stuff. Marcel's been researching this stuff since I've known her when we were kids and I'm like.

40:36.59
Marcy Nuelle
You hit me.

40:38.99
aidecodes
Ah, person who is I love this stuff and investigate the stuff on more the data side but this is a world. We both love. So we're hoping that y'all enjoyed it and we're hoping that you come back. So I have none Marcia Marcy unless you have anything you want to share.

40:49.70
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah, um, no I mean I just started my channel so you know on my channel I try to do a lot of tech tutorials design tutorials. Um, of course like marketing and business because I really want to share that information with people.

40:58.53
aidecodes
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

41:05.61
Marcy Nuelle
So even if it's not about Ai you want to learn about marketing and advertising. You know you can ask me about that too and like what kind of Ai tools like I made a few videos about Ai tools that people can use for their business. So it's kind of I want to bring everything together so that people can learn how to do things for themselves.

41:17.25
aidecodes
Um I like it. Yeah.

41:24.37
Marcy Nuelle
You know and really become like better entrepreneurs and see how tech can actually help you even if you like sell candles. It's like hey you can use an Ai tool to help you create create ads and graphics to make your business better. You know and automate it so you don't feel like you have to have a team.

41:30.36
aidecodes
Oh yeah, hurt here. Yep I agree you can be a hell of a soloprenere. So yeah, that works.

41:42.33
Marcy Nuelle
To have a really strong business running it by yourself. So um, exactly so yeah, so it's the channel is gonna grow I'm going to add a lot more I have a lot of like Adobe tutorials right now.

41:51.88
aidecodes
Oh no, I'm not worried about you. This woman could she not saying because y'all don't know she has so many channels that are like the no face channels that have millions and millions of views so now she's like finally showing her face and I'm so excited that she's showing her face in the mastermind behind a lot of these channels. Many of you have watched and you don't even know you're watching them from this lady right here and she's worked with so many other people to do that so please make sure you follow her. She just started her um her face channel. Um, so make sure you check her out. She's been literally studying this up for so long I remember back in day I'm ah um, go just share real quick. y'all can um, keep listening cause y'all y'all know you want to hear what I'm about to say but um, back in the day we were kids. So if you some of y'all maybe too young, but if you were born in the 80 s or grew up in the ninety. S. You knew something called Myspace so she was one of the folks that literally started like coding in myspace back in the day doing the website layouts because we used have to buy templates and buy layout but she started doing that like way back then and like built a career around like internet. Um and being an entrepreneur and has been able to literally work for herself her whole entire career.

42:52.59
Marcy Nuelle
Um.

42:56.50
Marcy Nuelle
Yeah.

43:02.20
aidecodes
And has like done billions of ads like I'm not joking billions with a b so I need you all to understand this girl knows what she's talking about I'm here cause I like to talk and I love this topic so make sure you listen I kind of know what I'm talking about ah most of the time. But yeah, so we're super excited. Thank y'all for joining us huh.

43:18.99
Marcy Nuelle
Um, don't let her liea I said don't don't lie to these people. She's a she's beyond. Oh you guys will see.

43:21.96
aidecodes
I Know they'll figure it out later I I but look you will think but no stay tuned. We will try to keep it as level as possible. There are times when we'll turn the pressure on a little bit but make sure you stay tuned. We are your.

43:38.71
Marcy Nuelle
Can't promise that.

43:40.47
aidecodes
We can't promise you a never lot but make you stay tuned for your a I um, your Ai news of the week and we are your Ai go to girls so check us out also tech bros stay here. You know you like it here all right byall.